Wednesday, October 21, 2009

In their own words - The Truth about the Public Option





I know that the Obama administration misuse of language is now so rampant that words have no meaning anymore, but the "Public Option" is competition myth must be exposed as the big lie that it is.

The best way to expose the lies, is to listen to the actual words their biggest supporters have said about the Public Option over the years, starting with none other than President Obama himself.

Public Option

13 comments:

Ray Bonis said...

I hope we do get rid of the current system and go for what France has.

Anonymous said...

White flags??? Yes' the French do have plenty of those.

Ray Bonis said...

They also have a great health care system.

Although the French system faces many challenges, the World Health Organization rated it the best in the world in 2001 because of its universal coverage, responsive healthcare providers, patient and provider freedoms, and the health and longevity of the country's population. The United States ranked 37.

The French system is also not inexpensive. At $3,500 per capita it is one of the most costly in Europe, yet that is still far less than the $6,100 per person in the United States.

Ray Bonis said...

When History Calls
by Richard Reeves
http://www.richardreeves.com/latest_column.html
OCTOBER 16, 2009

LOS ANGELES — Sen. Olympia Snowe said last week that in the end, which is near, she may or may not vote for health care reform. But she will, judging by her last comment as the Senate Finance Committee voted out a bill: "When history calls, history calls."

That certainly is one of the wisest quotes to come out of this Congress this year, particularly from the Republican side. The not-so-loyal opposition has been answering all questions with a single answer, "No."

The Republican theory seems to be that their job is to destroy the president of the United States — and to do it before next year's midterm elections. History might judge that as harshly as some Republican elder statesmen have. Former Sen. Robert Dole, once chairman of the Republican National Committee, a partisan who voted against Medicare in 1965, but not a fool, put it this way the other day: "Republicans all stand up and say they're for health care reforms, so why don't they do something about it? ... I don't believe they could absorb just across-the-board being against everything."

Dole may be out of touch with the party he loves, but he is more in touch with the feel of history. It has taken almost a century, but the people of the United States seem to realize that something has to be done about a dysfunctional system. I assume that is what Snowe and Dole were talking about: If it's broken, there does come a day when you do have to try to fix it.

More Here: http://www.richardreeves.com/latest_column.html

Anonymous said...

The problem with the Republican Party is best summed up by your examples of Senator Snowe and Senator Dole. Although I voted for Dole in 1996, he is the quintessential example of the decay of the Republican Party and the thinking that led to it's sorry state now.

Political Parties are supposed to be about ideas and not just political expediency. If you think (and all evidence points to the FACT) that Obamacare is a Trojan Horse that will lead to Socialized Medicine, than you have a moral obligation to oppose it with all your strength.

Being Democrat-Lite does not win long term (example Presidential Candidate McCain). The Republican Party needs to take it right to the Democrats HEAD ON. Fight them on the issues, win the debate or die trying. I would rather go down fighting for what I believe in than acquiese to Evil, which is what Olympia Snowe is doing.

This is EXACTLY why the Obama admistration is attacking Fox. They would LOVE to have a bunch of cowering sniveling republicans like McCain, Snowe, Graham and former Senator Dole. Why fight them? They will do your dirty work for you and give you the fig-leaf of "bi-partisanship" as you systematically destroy the country.

No, they are attacking those on the right that are calling them EXACTLY what they are, MARXISTS. They know that that is the one charge that is both 1. TRUE and 2. Can have resonance with the public.

Now, as a strategy, their attacking the true right might work (especially given the whiny spineless mouthpieces of the Administration that the modern Press Corp has devolved into), but that does not make them NOT Marxists, it just makes them politically SUCCESSFUL Marxists.

This fight is a long one, and one that may or not be won in the short term or ever. But it is a fight worth having.

I don't want to be on my deathbed and have to think that I sat by and let America sink itself and did nothing to stop it.

The Cream. said...

"Total rubbish" - The Cream.

Anonymous said...

Take from someone who has actually lived in a country with a Marxist ideology: Never accept ANYTHING that's government run. You have been warned.

Ray Bonis said...

Yes, don't open your mail. And take the garbage to the dump yourself. And refuse Social Security and Medicare when you get older. Don't let your children get paid the min. wage. In fact, work them in factories - avoid all gov't regulations....

Ray Bonis said...

Yes, don't open your mail. And take the garbage to the dump yourself. And refuse Social Security and Medicare when you get older. Don't let your children get paid the min. wage. In fact, work them in factories - avoid all gov't regulations....

Anonymous said...

Tired old arguments FDR, same old same old.

You need to come up with a better defense of socialized medicine than "Well, you must hate Roads and support child labor".

Such infantile and intellectually shallow responses show that you actually do NOT have a defense of socialized medicine and are just trying to create a smokescreen to hide the nakedness of your position.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think that he's done a great job deffending Marxism at every turn. Hollow arguments, true, but you have to give him an "A" for effort.

Ray Bonis said...

there is no nakedness about it - as I stole from the internets:

Although the French system faces many challenges, the World Health Organization rated it the best in the world in 2001 because of its universal coverage, responsive healthcare providers, patient and provider freedoms, and the health and longevity of the country's population. The United States ranked 37.

The French system is also not inexpensive. At $3,500 per capita it is one of the most costly in Europe, yet that is still far less than the $6,100 per person in the United States.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunally, a huge mayority of Americans have never lived outside the country and have no clue how good things here in America are as compared to even the most industrualized countries. As far as anything French, we got the Statue of Liberty, french fries and french kissing. AFAIC, nothing else in that country is even worth considering importing, specially their unamerican health care system.